---------------------------------------- > To: Dad > Subject: Re: This is what counts for intellectual honesty on the Left > Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 19:00:17 > > If you look at the links, the debate was quickly moved to a more substantive medium - but sometimes you can pick out single sentences even in non-Twitter discourse that are howlingly disingenuous. In this case, responding to Harris' "We can settle this by holding opposing cartoon contests. You take Islam, and I'll take any other religion on earth," with "Why don't we settle it with an invasion, bombing and occupation contest? I'll take US & Israel - you can have anyone else," strikes me as an egregious red herring. The U.S. and Israel do bad things, therefore any critique of Islam is invalidated or - worse yet - not allowed. When someone calls him on it, he petulantly replies, "I know - only the crimes of Muslims count - never your side - because *they* are so tribal, right?" He then goes on to invoke Josef Stalin as a complete non sequitur - presumably to trot out the old, tired canard that atheists are "just as dangerous" as the religious? At this point, I feel like we're dealing with someone who can be thoroughly dismissed as unserious. > > Anyway, I have to say, Greenwald comes off looking a lot better in 140+ characters, but he's still draws moral equivalencies and conflates military actions of the West with Muslim violence without adressing the CONSEQUENCES OF BELIEFS, although I really think the central problem is he simply does not grasp many of Sam's arguments. Here's his (quite lengthy!) response, and the e-mail exchange that sparked off the "Twitter debate" in the first place. > > http://ggsidedocs.blogspot.com.br/2013/04/email-with-sam-harris.html > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/03/sam-harris-muslim-animus > > > ________________________________ > > From: Dad > > Subject: RE: This is what counts for intellectual honesty on the Left > > Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 18:27:09 > > > > A twitter debate? What a waste. > > > > > To: Dad > > > Subject: This is what counts for intellectual honesty on the Left > > > Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 11:51:09 -1000 > > > > > > > > http://ggsidedocs.blogspot.com.br/2013/04/twitter-exchange-with-sam-harris-and.html
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